2 Months Training, Trying To Decide: Jun @ Ko Samui Or Phuket Camps?


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Theberge
So I'm back in Thailand to train for a couple of months. I'm no pro fighter, just someone who loves the sport after training 3 months here back in 2012. Have kept it up in the states on a regular basis. But back traveling and wanted to do this.

To be clear, I am looking for a a balance here, not just insane intense training. I'd like to train hard, but also have a good living experience. I spent a several weeks at Charn Chai in Pai and had a great experience and the training was excellent but was bored as fuck with Pai by the end. I figured training in the islands would be more sustainable as its more beautiful and more to do, beaches, etc.

I've never been to either Phuket or Ko Samui so flying blind here. Internet research only goes so far...

So question is, I seem to have to many options. I'm looking at the following:

1) Jun at Ko Samui. Seems to be highly regarded, bungalows in Lamai pretty cheap and available practically on the beach, which is very appealing. Easy to get around town 15 min. walk from beach to gym.

2) Something in Phuket. Leaning towards Rawai beach (i.e Lion Muay Thai, Sinbi, or Rawai). I don't know Phuket at all. I don't know what living in Rawai is like. I see that everything is more expensive than in Ko Samui right now. So that's a negative.

Other option on Phuket would be Singpatong in Patong, mainly because I think staying in Patong would be fun. But I realize these guys are all pretty much training for fights and I am not, so may not be the best fit (although I'd ideally id like to try one fight before I leave). I like the idea of having options to train hard and or party if I want to or spend a day on the beach, you know mix it up... 2 months is a long time to just train 100%.

I've ruled out Chalong Bay because it seems like just shitty place. And ruled out Sitsonpeenong in Kamala because it seems a bit remote but I could be wrong.

So, thoughts? Ideas? Recommendations? I'm leaning towards Jun at least for a month because its cheaper, seems to be a great community experience along with excellent training. I don't need an "authentic" gym, but nice to have a mix of foreign and Thai fighters.

No offense to guys on here, but not looking to be around a bunch of aggressive chip-on-their shoulder dickheads with a lot to prove. Humble, friendly people who take the sport seriously and love it as opposed to steroid assholes who are all about proving how badass they think they are, etc. You know the type (unforunately, combat sports attracts its fair sure of these lost should IMHO)....

Thanks all for any feedback... 1 week to go


Rambutan
Hello,

if you are looking for a balance between the good live and training I would give Singpatong a try. I have train at Patong boxing gym when it used to be down the street of Singpatong so I saw them training often and they did have alot of tourists who don't find neither.
I fear if you will stay in Rawai you'll get bored also after a while.

A better option imo is to train at a certain place for a month and then change.
That what I don't get about your Pai trip, you could have changed after a while and go train in CM and then a month in BKK for examples

good luck

Theberge
Thanks that's great to know about Singapatong and I agree with your point. I think I may start in Ko Samui and do a month and then switch to Patong. Or maybe vice versa. I just saw the prices all around Phuket seem very high to me. But I guess I was spoiled by Northern Thailand prices, where scooter was $100 a month and palace bungalow was like $250-300/month...

Rambutan
lol I had the same feeling about Phuket after staying a while in the North :-)

mylittletony
@Theberge How much did you pay for accomodation in Phuket?

Andi
I trained at Sinbi for two months and I lived at Phuket Riviera Villas (not even 5 mins walk). Sinbi was great and the hotel was very nice and Clean, and a pool. Alot of places to eat, massages, pharmacys etc. down the street.
You will need a scooter there, but you can rent one quite cheap at Sinbi. Nai Harn is a very nice beach and takes about 5-7 mins with scooter. You can also go to Kata and Karon (a bit longer, 15 minutes maybe by scooter). 25 minutes to Patong with Taxi..

Vlad
is there any place to get in touch with some tourist chicks @kata/karon or still the same pole dancing monkey bars ?

minr
Go to Moscow you'll probobaly see half of them there

Vlad
a way to say I don´t know

Theberge
So I decided on Koh Samui. Been here a couple of days. Hooked up with Jun Muay Thai. Jun is awesome, the camp seems pretty solid. Nice mix of foreign and Thai fighters, a few tourists looking to get in shape and experience farang kick boxers training intensely here for a couple of months. Trainers are dedicated and corrective. They are training fighters and take it seriously.

Fucking weird switching to southern style. Very different than what I trained with at Charn Chai and with Jonsanon in US. Some technique is almost opposite!

Staying at Lamai beach. Despite being high season, its not too expensive. Found a nice A/C 2nd story unit with balcony across street form beach and 10 minute walk from camp for 15,000/month. Would rather be on beach bungalow but seem to be much pricier or much shittier. Rented scooter from Jun is 3,000 baht/month.

So far I like Samui. Lamai beach is pretty chilled but has some nice western amenities and partying options if need be.

Very possible I stay here the entire 2 months if I don't get bored. Otherwise, off to Phuket in a month.

Thanks for the advice guys.

Rambutan
Happy you enjoy yourself,

how would you say the style is different?

Theberge
Syle is a lot less exaggerated. Kicks are shorter, less swing of arm or hips or legs. Same with punches. "All shoulders" is what they say. No knee, leg or hip rotation, except of course for hook. Same with elbows, very short, no swinging of hip. Totally the opposite to my previous training. I think its less power but faster. Just different.

Vlad
Yeah It´s Jun style

Rambutan
which style do you prefer?

I think it gets complicated when a lot of the trainers in the South ( like Phuket) are originally from the North-East...

Theberge
To be honest, I'm not really experienced enough to have a preference. I've only been training for 3 years and in that time have trained with probably 5-6 different trainers with different styles.

I think for me its best to really get one style down before training with a different style. I've decided to stay with Jun for the full 2 months versus switch to a different gym in 1 month and have to start over with whatever style they happen to have.

Agreed that many of the trainers down here are from Isaan or Lanna regions, so tough tell "where" their style comes from.

I was reading up about the old style (pre-western influence) of Muay Boran and read that there were many different fighting styles, with different names even, throughout the Kingdom of Siam. Different, stances, different strikes, different attacks and combinations, etc. before everything got codified into one unified official "Muay Thai" with rules, etc. So makes sense that each region would bear the imprint of their original fighting form from way back...

OzCanoes
Jun Muay Thai is a great gym..I trained there for the first time this year while we were holidaying in Koh Samui and I definately felt it was a good experience. Good mix of students to train with and good trainers with plenty of fight experience.

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